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the united states is getting drawn into a theologic debate. that is a mistake. is he right? >> i think that is true. this is a fight in the islamic world. far less islam versus the west and increasely true for the last 30 years. this is as they struggle to figure out how you blend the principles of a -- of the 21st century with their own cultural traditions. >> you said in some ways. that mean there is as there are things are not better muslim world? >> the film is associated with u.s. government policy. >> there's still some perception of america? >> in the same way a lot of americans look at the islamic world and say you get these few people in front of an embassy, that must mean they all hate us and the reality is they don't. >> robin wright, you are the author of the books "the islami islamists are coming." good to have your perspective, thank you. >>> all right occupy anniversary keep investors away on wall street? >>> plus, four years after the big collapse, the markets have come roaring back, but why isn't main street feeling the same impact? >>> first, today's trivia
the united states is getting drawn into a theologic debate. that is a mistake. is he right? >> i think that is true. this is a fight in the islamic world. far less islam versus the west and increasely true for the last 30 years. this is as they struggle to figure out how you blend the principles of a -- of the 21st century with their own cultural traditions. >> you said in some ways. that mean there is as there are things are not better muslim world? >> the film is associated...
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>> i think it comes down to who north dakotaens believe will go to the united states senate and every day fight for them. it's interesting, ed. the farm bill, essential air service, help for devils lake with their infrastructure needs, flood relief in minot, diversion in fargo, i mean i could just go around the state of north dakota and tell you what people care about. it's not what congressman burg is talking about. >> the ad running against you put out by the rnc in the state says you're for raising taxes. on who? >> i don't know. i was with a group of seniors today and i asked them, i said how many of you believe the 30-second commercials? not one happened was raised. not one hand. people are tuning them out because they know they are dishonest. they know they are not truthful. they know they are trying to scare people. and you and i have talked about this. i have asked for seven debates. we had one. unfortunately, it was 9:00 in the morning. kind of hidden there. you found a copy of it. i want more debates to talk about the critical issues. in the end, that's what people need to h
>> i think it comes down to who north dakotaens believe will go to the united states senate and every day fight for them. it's interesting, ed. the farm bill, essential air service, help for devils lake with their infrastructure needs, flood relief in minot, diversion in fargo, i mean i could just go around the state of north dakota and tell you what people care about. it's not what congressman burg is talking about. >> the ad running against you put out by the rnc in the state says...
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the united states had not yet catered to those expectations. maybe it's because of the elections, maybe it's because of the pre-election situation in the states. nobody has spoken to us about their reasons and they are not obliged to state anything. we're very thankful and pleased they have stated they are against this regime. >> it's good to see you. hearing what he said, can you give me a broader context of what he was explaining? >> reporter: i think he's very frustrated. he's a good friend of united states and a good friend to the obama administration. he didn't want to come out and directly sledge hammer the obama administration but he did say he is frustrated. perhaps the elections are playing part in the fact that the united states is not leading in any kind of intervention in syria. he says he wants a no-fly zone. that is to have u.s., nato, other aircraft patrol parts of syria in order to protect some of those population. the people trying to get to safe areas turkey is housing some 100,000 refugees. they are spending hundreds of milli
the united states had not yet catered to those expectations. maybe it's because of the elections, maybe it's because of the pre-election situation in the states. nobody has spoken to us about their reasons and they are not obliged to state anything. we're very thankful and pleased they have stated they are against this regime. >> it's good to see you. hearing what he said, can you give me a broader context of what he was explaining? >> reporter: i think he's very frustrated. he's a...
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if i'm president of the united states, when and if i become president of the united states, i will not take god out of my heart or out of the public scare and i will not take it under the platform of my party. >> paul ryan returned to washington taking a short break from the campaign to vote on a house spending bill. his first appearance in congress since he was named running mate a month ago. >>> chicago public teachers are hours away from starting their second day on strike. no progress has been made on the most contentious issues like teacher evaluation and job security. yesterday, thousands of teachers marched city hall, filling the streets and stopping traffic while the parents of 350,000 students will have to figure out alternatives for their kids. mayor rahm emanuel at the center of the dispute, it's becoming political. romney attacked the president for what's happening in his home city. >>> teachers unions made their interests conflict. today, we are seeing one of the clearest examples yet. i choose to side with the parents and children to give them the skills to succeed. it's
if i'm president of the united states, when and if i become president of the united states, i will not take god out of my heart or out of the public scare and i will not take it under the platform of my party. >> paul ryan returned to washington taking a short break from the campaign to vote on a house spending bill. his first appearance in congress since he was named running mate a month ago. >>> chicago public teachers are hours away from starting their second day on strike. no...
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how does the president of the united states get re-elected with these kinds of unemployment numbers? >> well, because i think people understand the context of his presidency. he was handed the worst set of problems of any president since franklin dell nor roosevelt became president that weren't of his own making, by courageous action he saved the financial system, the automobile industry in this country. we were losing $750,000 -- 750,000 jobs a month, we've had 30 straight month of private sector gains, but significant progress. we're gaining almost 100,000 jobs last month as opposed to losing 750. the stock market has doubled. there are many indications this economy is coming back and the jobs will follow. remember where we were and where we are now. that's what you grade him on as you move the country forward from where it was and the answer is a resounding yes. >> one of the reasons why, fred, people aren't hiring is they don't know what the tax structure is going to look like, what loopholes will be taken out. this was "meet the press" yesterday. and also abc with both mitt romn
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embassy in cairo is being fueled by an anti-muslim video made here in the united states. >> u.s. marines being called in as enforcements in been gone sea. >> the romney campaign already drafted a critical statement saying the obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those that waged the attacks. here's the problem with that. the romney statement was sent to reporters just after 10:00 p.m. on tuesday with the caveat it not be released until after midnight. it was sent before many of the facts were gathered. the statement is wrong because the obama administrations official statement from the secretary of state released just before the romney statement reads like this. i condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in benghazi today. our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. but let me be clear there is never any justification for violent attacks of this kind pf clinton's statement does not sympathize. anybody that tells you it did is lying. if you believe
embassy in cairo is being fueled by an anti-muslim video made here in the united states. >> u.s. marines being called in as enforcements in been gone sea. >> the romney campaign already drafted a critical statement saying the obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those that waged the attacks. here's the problem with that. the romney statement was sent to reporters just after 10:00 p.m. on tuesday with the...
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more inside the united states. something close to 9/11 but maybe not identical to the one thank you very much. we find it kind of scary, but a reminder that it's history. it doesn't mean that history can't be repeated. we will have more. these fellas used capital one venture miles for a golf getaway. double miles you can actually use... but mr. single miles can't join his friends because he's getting hit with blackouts. shame on you. now he's stuck in a miniature nightmare. oh, thank you. but, with e capital one venture card... you can fly any airline, any flight, any time. double miles you can actually use. what's in your wallet? alec jr? it was a gift. neil: you know, all this time i thought it was the kids that were the victims of the chicago teachers strike. leave it to "the new york times", specifically the teachers unions, the times headline says it all in the latest scandal. unions under siege. that even had to get your attention. >> it did, it did two. neil: do you think they are under siege? >> they are no
more inside the united states. something close to 9/11 but maybe not identical to the one thank you very much. we find it kind of scary, but a reminder that it's history. it doesn't mean that history can't be repeated. we will have more. these fellas used capital one venture miles for a golf getaway. double miles you can actually use... but mr. single miles can't join his friends because he's getting hit with blackouts. shame on you. now he's stuck in a miniature nightmare. oh, thank you. but,...
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i think isi hates the united states. the issue has been whether the radicals will take over the country and supply of nuclear weapons. >> greta: is the isi part of the rad kalsz? >> absolutely. >> greta: who is securing the nuclear weapons? >> not the isi. but there is no doubt to me that those weapons are incredibly vulnerable. that is why the strategy of the united states is to grit our teeth and talk to what is left of the civilian government and authority and to the military that are not radical and prevent this cancer from taking over. >> greta: thinking why are we giving this money, billions of dollars who people who hate us. the ugly part of democracy we try to buy our friends? >> not everybody in pakistan hates us. >> greta: but the isi does. >> we made mistakes going back to the reagan administration, isi that our aid to the mujaheddin, be funded through them. and they fathered the haqqani network. that is 30-year long problem. question is now whether you just throw the whole country under the bus out of frustra
i think isi hates the united states. the issue has been whether the radicals will take over the country and supply of nuclear weapons. >> greta: is the isi part of the rad kalsz? >> absolutely. >> greta: who is securing the nuclear weapons? >> not the isi. but there is no doubt to me that those weapons are incredibly vulnerable. that is why the strategy of the united states is to grit our teeth and talk to what is left of the civilian government and authority and to the...
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and god bless the united states. thank you. >> coming up, chicago mayor rahm emanuel takes the stage. we'll be right back. -[ taste buds ] donuts, donuts! -who are these guys? -oh, that's just my buds. -bacon. -my taste buds. -[ taste buds ] donuts. how about we try this new kind of fiber one cereal? you think you're going to slip some fiber by us? okay. ♪ fiber one is gonna make you smile. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing new fiber one nutty clusters and almonds. >>> also on the program tonight in charlotte, chicago mayor rahm emanuel, who was of course white house chief of staff for president obama. watch. >> when president obama entered the white house, the economy was in a freefall, the auto industry on its back. the banks, frozen up. more than 4 million americans had already lost their jobs. and america's bravest, our men and women in uniform were fighting for what soon would be the longest war in our history. you remember the uncertainty? and the fear that seized our country. on that first day, i said, mr.
and god bless the united states. thank you. >> coming up, chicago mayor rahm emanuel takes the stage. we'll be right back. -[ taste buds ] donuts, donuts! -who are these guys? -oh, that's just my buds. -bacon. -my taste buds. -[ taste buds ] donuts. how about we try this new kind of fiber one cereal? you think you're going to slip some fiber by us? okay. ♪ fiber one is gonna make you smile. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing new fiber one nutty clusters and almonds. >>> also on...
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in the united states. they just announced they have 42 times, not 42%, natural gas in ohio as they thought they did a year ago. i mean, just the drive of the energy sector under a romney administration generates in royalties, in taxes on new jobs and taxes on profits a major step towards the balanced budget. now you've got to control spending. paul ryan would be about as good a vice president as you could get if you wanted to have somebody. i mean, he will know more about the budget than the director of the budget. >> quick comment, and then i've got to go to a break. >> i'm all for exploiting our natural gas. it's incredible bounty. but if we don't do it as a bridge to a cleaner energy future we're going to burn up, choke up, heat up, smoke up and melt up this planet. far faster than even al gore predicts. >> all right. we're going to take a break here. i want to come back and talk a little bit about a big issue as we go into the democratic convention. gender politics. it was certainly big for the republi
in the united states. they just announced they have 42 times, not 42%, natural gas in ohio as they thought they did a year ago. i mean, just the drive of the energy sector under a romney administration generates in royalties, in taxes on new jobs and taxes on profits a major step towards the balanced budget. now you've got to control spending. paul ryan would be about as good a vice president as you could get if you wanted to have somebody. i mean, he will know more about the budget than the...
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catastrophic damage to the united states' economy and u.s. in general. that's something we have to keep in mind. is the threat there? yeah, it's there. a lot less than what it was but it's there and we have to remain vigilant. >> evan coleman, nbc terrorism analyst, thank you for your insight. >> that's going to wrap things up for me. stay with msnbc tomorrow for special coverage of the 9/11 terror attacks. "now with alex wagner" is coming up. >> governor mitt romney's map quest while president obama gets polling and fund-raising bumps team romney concedes a narrowing path to the white house. we will crunch numbers with peter hart, plus the romney ticket spends the weekend focusing on god while doing a loop de loop on budget policy. is this election still just about the economy? and we're going inside the victory lap. we'll ask slate's sasha issenberg about his book and the science of winning in a campaign. all of that when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most reward
catastrophic damage to the united states' economy and u.s. in general. that's something we have to keep in mind. is the threat there? yeah, it's there. a lot less than what it was but it's there and we have to remain vigilant. >> evan coleman, nbc terrorism analyst, thank you for your insight. >> that's going to wrap things up for me. stay with msnbc tomorrow for special coverage of the 9/11 terror attacks. "now with alex wagner" is coming up. >> governor mitt...
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what in the world is going on with the government of the united states when you have statements that are made per week. eyewitnesses call it a terrorist attack. an intelligence source called it an attack. we have been hearing that from the very first day. what is going on? >> i guess mr. olson didn't get the memo on what the message was. if this man came from that area, the question is do we really want to shut down the facility is president obama has pledged to do. this is an embarrassing issue for them. this man may have come from the is -- islamic group in which qadhafi was leader of the. lou: thank you very much to both of you. up next, the verdict is in. the inspector general's report on "fast and furious." we will have that for you next. coming up tomorrow, "fast and furious" investigator -- one of the leading congress members, trey gowdy and ceo dick grasso, and we are coming right back. stay with us. [ owner ] i need to expand to meet the needs of my growing business. but how am i going to fund it? and i have to find a way to manage my cash flow better. [ female announcer ] o
what in the world is going on with the government of the united states when you have statements that are made per week. eyewitnesses call it a terrorist attack. an intelligence source called it an attack. we have been hearing that from the very first day. what is going on? >> i guess mr. olson didn't get the memo on what the message was. if this man came from that area, the question is do we really want to shut down the facility is president obama has pledged to do. this is an...
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states government becomes tu united states citizens and the body of citizen rry and so it seems that the people who believe deeply in israel as a key ally and also as a shining light in a very difficult area, we ought to be concerned that perhaps some of our fellow citizens don't understand how important it is. >> rabbi david wolpe, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you. >>> for more stories on faith, check out the wildly popular bl blog, cnn.com/belief. >>> an american border agent is dead and now his suspected killer is in custody. we will talk to the border agent's family. conversations help us learn and grow. at wells fargo, we believe you can never underestimate the power of a conversation. it's this exchange of ideas that helps you move ahead with confidence. so when the conversation turns to your financial goals... turn to us. if you need anything else, let me know. [ female announcer ] wells fargo. together we'll go far. mom's smartphone... dad's tablet... or lauren's smartphone... at&t has a plan built to help make families' lives easier. introducing
states government becomes tu united states citizens and the body of citizen rry and so it seems that the people who believe deeply in israel as a key ally and also as a shining light in a very difficult area, we ought to be concerned that perhaps some of our fellow citizens don't understand how important it is. >> rabbi david wolpe, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you. >>> for more stories on faith, check out the wildly popular bl blog,...
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they are assumed to have the third largest stockpile after the united states and russia which are destroying their chemical weapons because we are members of the convention that prohibits the weapons. syria is not. it has never signed them. it is in syria's interest to keep the world guessing about what it has and how much of what it has but there are reports now from defectors, especially major general who was reports today in trail i can't to have given the first on the record interview in turkey, he says he attend add meeting three months ago at the chemical weapons center to discuss when and under what circumstances the syrian regime might use chemical weapons against their own citizens in aleppo, the second largest city. >>shepard: does that pass the smell test to you? if they do that and bashar al-assad wants to hang on, he ain't hanging on. >>guest: exactly. so far he is doing better than anyone has anticipated. everyone keeps saying he is gone, he is gone. he is still there. he still has a base support. despite killing 25,000 people. nevertheless, if he knows that if he uses the weap
they are assumed to have the third largest stockpile after the united states and russia which are destroying their chemical weapons because we are members of the convention that prohibits the weapons. syria is not. it has never signed them. it is in syria's interest to keep the world guessing about what it has and how much of what it has but there are reports now from defectors, especially major general who was reports today in trail i can't to have given the first on the record interview in...
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within the first month we had the attorney general of united states tell us we were a nation of power on race, the president came on later to say the police officers acted stupidly resting henry louis gates. of any knowledge. it was another thing after another the allies of the president has said if you oppose the stimulus, you are racist. if you're against obama can health care reform are racist because you don't want the president to succeed because he is black. i said no, this is not what we were supposed to have herald, not the american milken four. we should truly be taking diversity as our fabric to say this is what this is country is all about rather than the ethnicity with the election of obama. lou: it was before his election, as you point out, the congressional black caucus, these are organizations devoted to the perpetuation of ethnic identity and interest. what i struggle with is how are those interest any different than anybody else of interest and why aren't they combined? isn't that what it is supposed to be all about? >> i devoted an entire chapter to the caucus, and i
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>> it is about the united states only in a partial way. there are, as i said, legitimate grievances against u.s. policy, traditional support for the autocratic regimes, failure to solve the palestine problem, the way the war on terror was framed and conducted and the civilian casualties, all that's true. the problem is you have now more -- it has to do with what's taking place in those societies, especially in the arab world, in those societies going through this transition. >> right. >> you have competing forces using a pretext like the movie. you are going to see this taking place all over the arab world and the muslim world because these societies feel marginalized, feel aggrieved, and they are ruled by oppressive regimes, and the regimes are very good at directing the wrath of their own people, not against the injustices in those societies, but against the american boogieman. >> when you look back at the speech that president obama gave in 2009 in cairo when he talked about his desire to recalibrate the relationship between the united
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more inside the united states. something close to 9/11 but maybe not identical to the one thank you very much. we find it kind of scary, but a we find it kind of scary, but a reminder that it's history. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. neil: you know, all this time i thought it was the kids that were the victims of the chicago teachers strike. leave it to "the new york times", specifically the teachers unions, the times headline says it all in the latest scandal. unions under siege. that even had to get your attention. >> it did, it did two. neil: do you think they are under siege? >> they are not popular in america today. my difficulty with this strike in chicago is i think it is not the right strike and that's not the right side of the right time. and i think it's going to do more damage for a lot of unions but it's going to do good. >> richard trumka, the ceo, talk to him at the convention. one of the things he did tell me was w
more inside the united states. something close to 9/11 but maybe not identical to the one thank you very much. we find it kind of scary, but a we find it kind of scary, but a reminder that it's history. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. neil: you know, all this time i thought it was the kids that were the victims of the chicago teachers strike. leave it to "the new york times", specifically the...
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states, about people within the -- already present in the united states. >> and those reports had been prevalent since the late 1990s. i suspect today there are reports about people active in the united states. the issue is, was there actionable intelligence. this is what is so frustrating about intelligence. it was true then and will always be true. intelligence is always inprecise. nobody ever said that we have information that there's going to be a hijackings of airplanes used to fly into buildings in september of 2011 or any other time frame. none of that was the case. we have vague, generalized reporting, just as president clinton had the same. he only faults george bush on the 9/11 commission, actually faulted george bush, president clinton, the cia, the fbi, the department of justice. it was a much more context report. if anything, he's said in his reporting, and they never had the heart of what he says, which is other pdbs gave credence to the fact that this was an attack that could have been stopped. >> in my reading 06 the 9/11 report, it says numerous actions were taken over
states, about people within the -- already present in the united states. >> and those reports had been prevalent since the late 1990s. i suspect today there are reports about people active in the united states. the issue is, was there actionable intelligence. this is what is so frustrating about intelligence. it was true then and will always be true. intelligence is always inprecise. nobody ever said that we have information that there's going to be a hijackings of airplanes used to fly...
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states on the screen here behind us african-americans twenty five percent asians. twenty percent latinos nineteen percent student college student age eighteen to twenty four year olds eighteen percent seniors people who are no longer driving eighteen percent people poor people working poor less than thirty five thousand or fifteen percent and then you get down to the republican constituency of whites eight percent so this is who is going to be bumped off the voting rolls absolute somebody said i mean paul weyrich back in one thousand nine hundred eighty founded the american legislative exchange council gave a speech in texas where he said i don't want everybody to vote elections are not decided by a majority of voters now they never have been in fact art in fact let me let me just play this clip for you hilary if you haven't seen it you're going to this going to make your hair stand up here take a look at how many of our critics have what i call. wrong. they want everybody to vote i don't want everybody to vote. by a majority of people they never have. and they are
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this movie being produced by egyptian ex-patriots who live in the united states. roughly a dozen men, according to ap reports, scaled the embassy wall and actually were able to get the flag of the united states and tear it down, chanting there is no god but god and mohammed is the prophet of god. this all happening within the last few hours. and these again, protesters are described as being hard-line islamist supporters of what is known as the salafist movement or egyptian football fans or soccer fans. they're protesting production of a movie they deem offensive to the prophet mohammed. melissa: adam, i hate to put you on the spot because i know you're on this breaking story. do you know if the embassy was evacuated or there are americans inside? >> the embassy issued a statement condemning what happened. as you go through the reports here, doesn't look if the embassy was evacuated or got into the embassy. they got over the wall these men to tear down the stars an stripes. melissa: adam shapiro, thank you so much for that report. >> yep. melissa: so the jobs mark
this movie being produced by egyptian ex-patriots who live in the united states. roughly a dozen men, according to ap reports, scaled the embassy wall and actually were able to get the flag of the united states and tear it down, chanting there is no god but god and mohammed is the prophet of god. this all happening within the last few hours. and these again, protesters are described as being hard-line islamist supporters of what is known as the salafist movement or egyptian football fans or...
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states constitution so this really highlights how not only is the war on workers a ploy by republicans to redistribute wealth of the very top but it's also completely unconstitutional so what's the big picture what's the big mean between these two ongoing labor struggles in america here to offer his take is josh eidelson. freelance journalist and contributor to salon and in these times josh welcome back thanks for having me back tom josh what do we know about this tentative agreement is it a win for the teachers. well it's clear that the school district is offering much more than they were a week ago and so the strike has caused some major concessions from rahm emanuel who no one sees as a pushover based on the information released but released by the union which is more extensive than what's come out from the district they've seen significant movement on wages there is an agreement but to have fifty percent of the hiring when some schools are closing in others they're opening up the from the pool of people who are laid off and the teachers have made progress in some of the teaching an
states constitution so this really highlights how not only is the war on workers a ploy by republicans to redistribute wealth of the very top but it's also completely unconstitutional so what's the big picture what's the big mean between these two ongoing labor struggles in america here to offer his take is josh eidelson. freelance journalist and contributor to salon and in these times josh welcome back thanks for having me back tom josh what do we know about this tentative agreement is it a...
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grew more than three point two percent a year it had never happened before ever in the united states and it's only happened in two or three countries ever in the history of the world as soon as as soon as reagan drop that top tax rate all of a sudden was hot money hey let's gamble and everybody and we when we moved into a bubble economy and thirty years of reaganomics has devastated america you can look back or you can look forward to point is looking forward i'm saying to try to mind that where you have to have a reputation against reaganomics i mean it's always interesting and people want to talk about cuts but these are not the people being cut i mean the people who are going to be affected by these cuts this small government this fiscal accountability are the poor are low income americans are working class americans so you cut fire you you cut police for instance in in michigan you take fifty percent of the lighting out of the city of detroit you take now literally live right you take ninety five of the lighting out of city of highland park in the name of fiscal responsibility bu
grew more than three point two percent a year it had never happened before ever in the united states and it's only happened in two or three countries ever in the history of the world as soon as as soon as reagan drop that top tax rate all of a sudden was hot money hey let's gamble and everybody and we when we moved into a bubble economy and thirty years of reaganomics has devastated america you can look back or you can look forward to point is looking forward i'm saying to try to mind that...